wow, facebook can really be a trip. i changed my status this morning & it took on a life of it's own...a thread was created, which lasted all throughout the day & into the evening... ever wonder what other peeps are talking about? well, this thread was way too juicy not to share...especially if you're in rescue. would love to hear your comments. proceed with caution...it starts off silly, gets interesting, then surprising, then nasty... feel free to share with your friends...spread the words around...lord knows the babies need to have the truth told...it's our responsibility...
oh, you may want to reference bad rap's blog post to get the background info about chris rock & jay leno recently if you haven't already heard...here.
here's the actual thread...with some names changed, but not all.
Robyn Arouty (facebook status)
"chris rock...kiss my fat black azz!"
J
RA--appreciate the sentiment but when did u become AA?
Robyn Arouty
have u seen my bootie??? it ain't caucasian!!
Robyn Arouty
& damn proud of it sista!
Robyn Arouty
one more thing...they don't call me "Arouty The Bootie" for nuthin'! haha!
D
it's sephardic
C
Haha! I'm joining in with this, as I also have a non-caucasian booty, and I wish to throw Chris Rock out on his behind for saying what he said about pitbulls - I'm so ashamed of him for doing that - I used to be a fan
C
Jay Leno too!
Robyn Arouty
haha! i never liked jay leno to begin with...so no love lost there!!
D
actually, it may be yiddish from your mother's side. I know I have it, and I'm yiddish. At least I think I am--married to Steve so long I can't remember!
C
I was never a fan of his either, but I do hope he gets a kick in the ass! Maybe it will match the size of his face! Comedians as big as they are KNOW how much influence they have by what they say - I felt like they gave ignorant people more of an excuse to go back to the caveman days - so not funny to condone pediphiles or rapists, same with torturing animals, its not funnnnnny!
J
Arouty the booty? lol...lol...and she's a flamenco dancer...
M
I missed the story but it sounds like Jay Leno & Chris Rock are now on my $hit list...
MS
LOL! my nickname is booty....sometimes bubble butt! i knew i liked you for a reason robyn! ;)
but chris rock might ENJOY kissing your big ol' booty so you have to think of something else! :)
Mark
I dig the big butt conversation, but the PC fallout from a joke that comedian told , you guys are treating Rock and leno like they actually hurt a dog...I think ya'll need to lighten up and talk about butts a little more...or continue the work you do helping the dogs...all the Political correctness crap just slows you down. just saying..
J
@Mark...apparently Pryor's Widow does not feel that way since it cost Rock the lead in the movie on Pryor's life.
J
Hi mark :) thanks for liking our butts - The reason that Rock's comments are important, is because they breed ignorance and more cruelty towards pitbulls. I rescue pitbulls and am the proud owner of 2. Owning these dogs forces you to become politically active with protecting them, because it opens your eyes to exactly how much these dogs are in ... Read Moredanger. Inner city kids pretty much consider these dogs to be trashy monsters. We found a nine week old puppy being beaten with bottles and trash being thrown at it, right outside of an elementary school behind a fence. The kids were ages 7-12, and they honestly thought this was funny. The puppy was terrified, lost, alone, and starving to death. We grabbed her and brought her home. This is what these dogs are up against, not to mention breed specific legislation and dog fighters. They were actually ranked the number one family dog, not the golden retriever, in the 1940's and 50's. They were nicknamed "nanny dogs" because of their huge heart and love for children. It wasn't until decades later, after the doberman and rottweiler era, that pitbulls started becoming a symbol for the urban gang culture. Chris Rock bashed everything that I have to work hard to stop in this culture. Yes he is only one man, but his fanbase are millions and millions of people, people who I am sure he influenced by saying that. That's why it's so important to squash. Ignorance only breeds more ignorance and hatred - My big butt and I are so tired of the public's misconception about this breed. And if the public is misled, then comes BSL, where my dogs will be forcefully removed by my home and destroyed by animal control, only for its breed, not its temperment, character, or for any other reason.
I'm sorry, but I'm not going to let them ever do that!
Mark
that's my point ......who cares about her either?
Chris Rock, Leno, Pryor's wife...who cares? ..it's all PC bullshit. did anyone here harm an animal?...if not forget about it and move on to something that matters..
Mark
Hi Carolyne, i dig your pasion for the dogs too....but my point here is simple....those kids were gonna do the same thing if it were a cat a pigeon or a goat....it's the parents or lack of parenting that cause these things. Chris Rock say's what is on his mind, he is a comedian and as far as Im concerned if anyone takes him seriously they weren't a candidate for understanding a pitbulls plight to start with..I can see where this might mean something to you because it;s your passion and i appreciate that, ..but in the big picture...this is a non issue being turned into a PC issue. if someone insists that this guy apologizes for this im gonna puke from the overload of PC bs being thrown around these days...now...more about butts!
Lori McRee Hoffman
if i am not mistaken richard pryors family are heavily invested in animal rescue arent they?
J
@Lori yes...@Mark...point taken, but (no pun intended)...you DO realize that you are communicating on a thread with ANIMAL RESCUE folks?
Mark
Joe....Oh yeah.... and you are all cool peeps for what you do. (I have three dogs) Im just on a PC kick right now. I don't think going after something a comedian says is worth the time and effort it takes to go after him, Im sure there are far more inflammatory things to bitch about.
Imus, lost his job got excoriated.Michael Richardson spoke his mind and the media lit him up...Jackson, Sharpton, Quanell X, Malcolm X , sheila jackson and long list of other people can say whatever they want and has no impact on their lives, Because its Politically incorrect to criticize them..but, i can see where you guys would want to talk about it and i should stay out of it realizing it is a topic of discussion amongst your group. I dont agree with what he said, i just don't think it rises to the level of some huge social impact statement.
J
@Mark...i understand...it can get to a point where one is hesitant to say anything. I'll leave it at that...and not saying your perspective is not welcome..not my place to do that...and thank you for being considerate enough to explain yourself. That's keepin' it real!
Jennifer Lee Pryor
Well, I make the time to go after someone who is defending a scumbag like Vick! Chris Rock should offer simple apology instead of digging hole deeper which he has done!
Jennifer Lee Pryor
Yes, Lori, we are! Richard and I established Pryor's Planet together before his death!
Lori McRee Hoffman
i thought so. i am a fan. i read about you at cousin nancy's blog from kinky's utopia ranch! i am a fan and a fellow rescue partner! nice to meet you jennifer.
Jennifer Lee Pryor
Rock has communicated with another FB buddy that he believes what Mike Vick did and what hunters do are the same and I quote: "if it were 7 moose or 7 deer no one would pay attention"...this guy doess't get it! HELLO CHRIS, DEER AND MOOSE ARENOT LOCKED IN CAGES BEING TORTURED, ELECTROCTED AND DROWNED, BEATEN, FORCED PREGNANCIES...AND TEETH GROUND DOWN FOR THE BAITS AND SHARPENED FOR THE FIGHTERS! WTF HE IS THINKING?
Lori McRee Hoffman
i think there is a possibility that chris is ignorant about the horrors of dog fighting.
Robyn Arouty
mark...open mouth...insert foot...whatcha got to say now brown cow?? ;)
Jennifer Lee Pryor
It has been spelled out for him! I think he is just plain ignorant!LOL
Jennifer Lee Pryor
I love Nancy and Kinky...they have taken some dogs from PP, one we flew down and two from the streets of Cleburn, Texas. Great people! Nice to meet you!
Robyn Arouty
lori's my girl...no-kill prez in PA...kicks major bootie! i wanna visit kinky's place...roadtrip anyone??
Jennifer Lee Pryor
Mark: it does rise to huge social impact! Consider this: people who abuse animals generally go on to committ violence crimes against people! Let's talk about Dahmer, Bundy and a few other serial killers just for starters...then we can your run of the mill scumbags in your everyday neighborhoods! Social impact...you bet it has social impact!
Lori McRee Hoffman
oh hell jennifer dont even get us started on serial killers and animals...cause i am going to have to add those people who work at so called animal shelters taking millions and billions of dollars in money and kill helpless animals instead of finding homes for them. ok i am going to get off my rant box now.
Mark
JLP, wow, look at what got started here....I appreciate you people , but this was a stupid statement by a comedian. Pscycho babble about what he said and connecting it to Jeffrey Dahmer? What a frigging stretch. More PC BS. Please focus on what you do...not the ramblings of a skinny comedian. you should go back and read what you said..it sounds ridiculous. and by the way, could you please show us where Chris Rock "communicated" the hunting story, otherwise you sound like a third grader playing broken telephone and starting a gossip chain. I agree with what everyone does here, and i dig the passionate part...but c'mon this is a bit of a stretch. Time could be spent better elsewhere.
Jennifer Lee Pryor
Mark: Sorry, it's you who sounds quite in the dark: The research is all in, the correlation between animal abuse and violent crimes is proven, documented etc. Dahmer chopped up cats, frogs, squirrels. Bundy same...Vick tortured those animals...this demonstrates lack of empathy, compassion and no conscience...no stretch at all Mark...do some ... Read Moreresearch of your own! Those who abuse animals are highly likely to committ violent crimes! The statement: "where is social impact?" is completely nieve and ignorant!
Robyn Arouty
mark...first of all, referring to my friends as "you people" is not appropriate. secondly, read back what you wrote, it sounds ridiculous. third, have you actually read the accounts of what michael vick did? do you care? making light of this in any form or fashion is perpetuating the problem as far as i'm concerned. now, you know i always win our arguements...& get the last word, right? ;)
Jennifer Lee Pryor
I will link it on my FB page...I don't start gossip Mark...I don't write checks that my ass can't cash!
Putting it up on my page...check it out in a few.
Mark
Robyn for heavens sake, read what i said , I appreciate you people....means i appreciate the rescue groups...now you have come full circle and proved my PC point..(really Robyn c'mon I hope you were kidding) secondly I am not talking about Vick, i am talking about Chris Rock.we are discussing Chris Rock and what he said, not what Vick did. Nice try though.
Mark
Thanks...hey another butt reference on this string...cool.
Jennifer Lee Pryor
http://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=184024260468&ref=mf
Robyn Arouty
i was fb friends with this guy...& when farrah fawcett died, he made jokes...right after it was announced. it was in very poor taste & then a lot of people, including me, bashed him. the next day or evening or whenever it was michael jackson died. he was obviously shaken up. ... i was too...but me & a couple of others razzed him & made a few jokes to teach him a lesson & call him out. he publicly defriended me.
so, what i'm trying to say is...jokes about death are not funny & in poor taste. this is not PC...that's very narrow minded of you to assume...this is respect & dignity for the ones who have suffered. are holocaust jokes funny? what about your dead grandmother? would jokes about her be funny to you?
Jennifer Lee Pryor
Link is to conversation CR had with an ex-fan!
This just proves how CR doesn't get it and probably never will!
Robyn Arouty
j...just curious...i know this is strongly a cultural bias amongst african americans...the indifference towards dogs...how was richard different? he obviously thought beyond this ol' school mentality...esp @ that time when we didn't have as much advocacy stuff out there...
Jennifer Lee Pryor
Richard loved animals...he gave voice to them in several of his routines...he loved animals...when we went to Africa, he was a child in his element-learning and loving everything he saw,especially the animals! Great routine about the Lions whom he tried to befriend one afternoon!LOL...at the risk of our lives! He always had dogs and when we got ... Read Moreback together, it was the dogs who helped us heal as well as companions to him when he became quite ill.He became quite an advocate and out of that was borne: Pryor's Planet...
Richard was so different, in many ways and I miss him so much.He was and remains a national treasure but he was also my very own treasure and I wish he could tell Rock off himself! But I'm here!
Robyn Arouty
yes!! you are here!! & richard would be so proud i'm sure of it girlfriend!!! thank you for sharing...so beautiful!!
Lori McRee Hoffman
lol! i wish richard was here to tell rock off too. rock look ashamed! you been told off by the master!
Mark
jennifer The link is taking me to a live feed.so i couldn't see it jennifer...Ok everyone chill for a second here....i am not defending what anybody said here..I am not defending what anyone did....this whole string got started because of the politically correct tinge to the whole thing...I mean we even went back to the 'you people' thing here..the oldest PC bullshit on the planet...for crying out loud. And now RA want's to stretch it from Jennifers Jeffrey Dahmer reference all the way to the Holocaust and my Grandmother.....you people...(Jennifer and Robyn) should be lawyers because you reference things that have no bearing on the conversation (my grandma?) and twist it around.
Chris Rock is a skinny comedian that is politically incorrect. That is all Im trying to say...Richard Pryor ...hmm...did he ever say anything offensive? Yes..Just because he loves animals was he somehow different than Chris Rock...Richard Pryor was a genius...and an offensive politically incorrect guy. OK. jennifer I cant find the link, but I if assume what you say is correct....did you take it in it's context? Are you saying that CR is dog hater?...he has no issue with the atrocious things MV did? just make it clear and stand behind empirical proof that he is this person and ill get behind you..otherwise , he's just another offensive, funny , skinny comedian to me. ( not as funny as the other skinny offensive comedian)
Lori McRee Hoffman
mark...it is not any cooler for chris rock to make jokes about animal torture than it would be for him to make jokes about jeffrey dahmers victims.
Jennifer Lee Pryor
Click on the link, it will take you to the conversation...
'Politically correct tinge'---don't know what you are talking about, maybe you want to go to Democratic Underground and talk politics there!...You might have more fun than here!
Jennifer Lee Pryor
I don't need you to 'get behind me' Mark!lol...seriously, you don't get it...that's fine. Adios!
Mark E Price
Get a grip people, I didn't say it was cool....i dont like it either....but im not gonna string him up like i would michael vick....does anyone! understand this? does anyone understand what the term 'politically incorrect' means? this how this crap gets started and it is just my point....the man said something you took offense to...he didnt DO anything that you took offense to...it's my only point. But somehow it's not getting across.
Robyn Arouty
bottom line...not funny to us. & not funny to the person who makes the decisions about the richard pryor movie. so, chris rock--tough titties on u!!
Jennifer Lee Pryor
No it's not getting across because it's a dumb fuckin point!
Robyn Arouty
i plan to create a blog post based on this thread...if i do not receive an email from you stating that i cannot use your name, i will assume it is ok to post it.
Lori McRee Hoffman
so there you have it mark. dfp
Jennifer Lee Pryor
He took a position, a bad position on a disturbing problem in our society...Vick is the symbol of that problem...bad position on a bad indivicual and bad position on a bad problem!
I'm telling you Mark, you might enjoy Democratic Underground...they might get all your political references there!
Mark
Never mind....now it's down to this. Childish at best. Im sure you are nice person and you wouldn't normally show your intolerance for a debate by using foul language like this jennifer. hope you sell bunches of vitamins on your blog. Im done with this string now that it's kiddie time.
Robyn Arouty
j...u sell vitamins? cool...
Lori McRee Hoffman
good. bye mark.
Jennifer Lee Pryor
We put the link up to this company and you can order directly from them; good company, good shit.
I always find it hilarious when people are offended by 'foul language' but are not offended by animal abusers or those who defend them! As RIchard would say, "sometime, you gotta calls it like ya see em'...dumb fuckin point indeed! Good bye Mark...
Mark
Listen, don't be an idiot jennifer, I am on your side when it comes to the animals, and i dont like what Rock said either...but you made it personal...I did not once say that i did not find offense to what was said so stop putting words in my mouth. and by the way, I dont give a shit what Chris Rock has to say...nor do I give a 'fuck" what Richard would have to say either.
Lori McRee Hoffman
you know when i began pointing out to my community that the so called "shelter" was killing the animals that came there, the community was angry with me for saying so but not angry that there was an organization in our county that would take your money pretending to save and rescue the animals and then kill them.
we just seem to live in a day and age where those who call bad bad are looked upon as the perpetrator of bad instead of the good guy bearing light on their darkness.
to me it would be like being the bad guy for saying hey the germans are killing jews over here and we need to do something to stop them, and everyone instead of being appalled at the germans behavior, being appalled at the one who had the gall to say it....
oh and let me clarify cause last time i used that to try and explain something, some one got upset and thought i was calling jewish people dogs or something and really it is not about jewish people or dogs, but about shooting the messenger i guess.
what a screwed up world we live in today
Jennifer Lee Pryor
Mark, I think that's true: you don't care what anyone says...
You should not have wasted your time here...I am sure other forums would appreciate you much more!
Jennifer Lee Pryor
Robyn: Awesome thread to post somewhere...if you send me link, I will also post!
Jennifer Lee Pryor
I hear you Lori:your point, though, roundabout is well taken: PEOPLE HAVE A HARD TIME HEARING THE TRUTH...and the ones telling the truth, have an even harder time! But there are a bunch of brave soldiers in the rescue community, not afraid to tell the truth or walk the walk!
Bravo to all the brave rescuers!xx
Mark
ok..here you go...ill do my best to explain my position and be done with this once and for all....
Chris rock has the right to be offensive....and you can't take that away from him any more than you could with Pryor , Lenny bruce or anyone else.....but when it affects 'your" world you have a different opinion. All of 'you people' in the dog rescue ... Read Morearena are awesome people, I thinks it great, I dont have time to help but i give my money and support. my entire point is about political correctness run amok, Im fed up with it and think some of the attitudes are just as offensive as the language used by the very people that offend you....Jennifer, i forgive you for getting nasty and churlish with me, and i apologize for reacting to it, i am above that most times. Understand, I don't like what was said, not one bit, but Ill protect the jerk off's right to say it.
Now, Robyn, you have my permission to use this and this statement only.
Jennifer Lee Pryor
Nothing is as offensive as what Vick did and anyone who defends him! People listen to celebrities! "There must never be a time when we fail to protest" Vick has been reinstated in the NFL...this should not have happened and then Rock goes on national television and basically exonerates him 'because Pits aren't real dogs'...HIS COMMENTS WERE UTTERLY... Read More DISPICABLE...AND WORDS DO MATTER....if the language I use offends you....well fuck it! I am offended by your lack of outrage!I never said he did not have the right to say it...first ammendment is alive and well...but I have the right NOT TO LIKE WHAT HE SAID..now, frankly this has gone in circles apparently to assuage your own ego...so im out...and you enjoy yourself....and I have the right under the first ammendent to use the language I am using!
Robyn Arouty
mark, now you're backpeddling... i don't need your permission to blog about this...& deleting your comments will only be in vain...i've saved everything to text already...tough titties...
Jennifer Lee Pryor
Again to all the brave rescuers: these are the kind of people who like to obfuscate and confuse the real issues...no one of us shoudl be distracted by their BULLSHIT MANIPULATIVE TALKING IN CIRCLES...! Poor Mark has lost the point of his own argument, he is simply finding new ones to cling to! Like my offensive language...ya gotta laugh!
Mark
backpeddling? from what? Being excoriated by a dead comedians relative about a living comedians right to say something stupid? what the hell is the matter with you? i dont give a shit anymore, leave me the fuck alone.
Robyn Arouty
LOL.
Mark
let me add this for your blogpost....this is about Political correctness...not animal abuse...make sure you get that straight...and Jennifer and Robyn....fuck off you goofballs. Oh and get a life.
Robyn Arouty
what the rest of you don't know...is that i actually was engaged to marry this man. many, many years ago. (mark...not richard or chris) i couldn't think for myself back then...& continued on in that manner, getting into relationships with arrogant & emotionally unavailable men.
i say this...just to share with u...how damn happy i am sitting here right now. i love my life & don't need a man, especially one who thinks he knows better than me. :))
Jennifer Lee Pryor
LOL!!!
I didn't realize all this time we were having a conversation about POLITICAL CORRECTNESS...!!!LOL
Robyn Arouty
look at this abusive shit i just rec'd from mark...who has pretended to be my friend for the past year...oh, i forgot to mention my tendency towards men with anger management problems too...very interesting...but i'm glad he proves my point here below:
"you really are pathetic....sad, lonely and pathetic. But i dont feel sorry for you because you are a full on pain in the ass bitch that will remain alone and sad because of who you are."
Jennifer Lee Pryor
He is the pathetic one...wow, I quess we must have gotten to ol' Mark---he just didn't even know what he was arguing about...now he is sending you abusive emails...well, we know he is no animal lover! He has called himself out as the jerk he is...wow! I have recently weeded my own garden of people whom I thought were my friends...it's cathartic to get rid of toxic loosers like this! You rock Robyn! People who don't love animals are the lonely ones!!!
Lori McRee Hoffman
lol wow robyn! a full on pain in the ass!
Jennifer Lee Pryor
he was beginning to look like girl man, couldn't handle 4 letter words...me thinks a right winged christian fundamentalist was in our midst!(Me---Irish Catholic here),,,fanatics are little bullies! I think we had a little bullie who couldn't take the playground he was trying to play in!
Jennifer Lee Pryor
omg---this is great that you posted all of this...but I just realized one thing; I MISSED THAT YOU WERE ENGAGED TO THIS TOOL~im so sorry I missed that and didn't comment! well, here's my comment: YOU ARE A LUCKY GIRL THAT YOU DIDN'T WALK DOWN THE AISLE WITH THAT HYPOCRITE, BULLY, GIRLY MAN---RP WAS THE LOVE OF MY LIFE AND I MARRIED HIM TWICE BUT TRUST ME, I HAD MY FILL OF IDIOTS TOO! CONGRATULATIONS ON GETTING AWAY FROM HIM!wow>..HOW COULD I HAVE MISSED THAT!
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